Historic Yankees Tournament

Postby **RevanFan** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:44 pm

Well, I just got OOTP Baseball 22, and I had an idea I think will be brilliant. I'm going to do something similar to what I've done with my historic Cowboys teams, but... this time, it'll be simulated series with EVERY SINGLE YANKEES TEAM. That's right, every Yankees team. What's that you ask? "What about when they were the Highlanders, in the deadball era?" They'll be there too, don't you worry. Everyone from Jack Chesbro to Wally Pipp to Babe Ruth to Joe DiMaggio to Yogi Berra to Mickey Mantle to Thurman Munson to Don Mattingly to Derek Jeter to Aaron Judge. Every year from 1903 to 2020.

To make sure the lineups are accurate, I'm doing research for each team, checking box scores to figure out the correct batting order. The format will be World Series style. Seven game series, 2 home, 3 away, 2 home. The seeding will be done based primarily on playoff finish, with win percentage as a tiebreaker. The seeding is as follows:

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1.   1927 (.714)   WSW
2.   1998 (.704)   WSW
3.   1939 (.702)   WSW
4.   1932 (.695)   WSW
5.   1961 (.673)   WSW
6.   1936 (.667)   WSW
7.   1937 (.662)   WSW
8.   1953 (.656)   WSW
9.   1941 (.656)   WSW
10.   1928 (.656)   WSW
11.   1938 (.651)   WSW
12.   1923 (.645)   WSW
13.   2009 (.636)   WSW
14.   1951 (.636)   WSW
15.   1950 (.636)   WSW
16.   1943 (.636)   WSW
17.   1956 (.630)   WSW
18.   1949 (.630)   WSW
19.   1947 (.630)   WSW
20.   1977 (.617)   WSW
21.   1952 (.617)   WSW
22.   1978 (.613)   WSW
23.   1999 (.605)   WSW
24.   1958 (.597)   WSW
25.   1962 (.593)   WSW
26.   1996 (.568)   WSW
27.   2000 (.540)   WSW
28.   1942 (.669)   WSL
29.   1963 (.646)   WSL
30.   1921 (.641)   WSL
31.   1957 (.636)   WSL
32.   1960 (.630)   WSL
33.   2003 (.623)   WSL
34.   1955 (.623)   WSL
35.   1964 (.611)   WSL
36.   1976 (.610)   WSL
37.   1922 (.610)   WSL
38.   2001 (.594)   WSL
39.   1926 (.591)   WSL
40.   1981 (.551)   WSL
41.   2019 (.636)   ALCS
42.   1980 (.636)   ALCS
43.   2004 (.623)   ALCS
44.   2012 (.586)   ALCS
45.   2010 (.586)   ALCS
46.   2017 (.562)   ALCS
47.   2002 (.640)   ALDS
48.   2018 (.617)   ALDS
49.   2011 (.599)   ALDS
50.   2006 (.599)   ALDS
51.   1997 (.593)   ALDS
52.   2005 (.586)   ALDS
53.   2007 (.580)   ALDS
54.   2020 (.550)   ALDS
55.   1995 (.549)   ALDS
56.   2015 (.537)   ALWC
57.   1954 (.669)
58.   1994 (.619)
59.   1920 (.617)
60.   1931 (.614)
61.   1948 (.610)
62.   1934 (.610)
63.   1904 (.609)
64.   1933 (.607)
65.   1985 (.602)
66.   1935 (.597)
67.   1906 (.596)
68.   1924 (.586)
69.   1910 (.583)
70.   1919 (.576)
71.   1970 (.574)
72.   1940 (.571)
73.   1929 (.571)
74.   1946 (.565)
75.   1983 (.562)
76.   1930 (.558)
77.   1986 (.556)
78.   1979 (.556)
79.   2008 (.549)
80.   1987 (.549)
81.   1974 (.549)
82.   1993 (.543)
83.   1944 (.539)
84.   1984 (.537)
85.   1903 (.537)
86.   1945 (.533)
87.   1988 (.528)
88.   2013 (.525)
89.   2016 (.519)
90.   2014 (.519)
91.   1975 (.519)
92.   1916 (.519)
93.   1959 (.513)
94.   1968 (.512)
95.   1972 (.510)
96.   1971 (.506)
97.   1911 (.500)
98.   1969 (.497)
99.   1973 (.494)
100.   1909 (.490)
101.   1982 (.488)
102.   1918 (.488)
103.   1905 (.477)
104.   1965 (.475)
105.   1907 (.473)
106.   1992 (.469)
107.   1917 (.464)
108.   1989 (.460)
109.   1914 (.455)
110.   1915 (.454)
111.   1925 (.448)
112.   1967 (.444)
113.   1966 (.440)
114.   1991 (.438)
115.   1990 (.414)
116.   1913 (.377)
117.   1908 (.331)
118.   1912 (.329)

The only real negative in this is that the game thinks every series is the World Series because of how I'm doing it haha. Just ignore that and it'll be good. The game also doesn't have all of the correct manager names, but again... just don't worry about it.

I'll post recaps and box scores, provided by the game, of each game in each series, with one series per post. The games will all be simulated. The one thing I'm still not sure about is whether or not to use the DH rule for all teams, or just the ones from 1973-present. I think I'll have it be a team-by-team basis, with the home team determining, like the actual World Series. Game strategy will be set to the modern era for all games, and the roster limit will be 26 for all teams.

I know this part of the site isn't frequented much, but I hope there's a few baseball fans here who will find this interesting. Feel free to take a chance at guessing who will win it all.

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Postby **RevanFan** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:45 pm

Here's the bracket. I warn you... you may want to open it in its own tab.

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And here's the bracket that gets updated after each series has ended.

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Postby **RevanFan** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:59 pm

The first series in this incredibly massive tournament is the #65 seed 1985 Yankees (97-64) at the #64 seed 1933 Yankees (91-59). The top players for 1985, going by WAR, were OF Rickey Henderson, INF Don Mattingly, SP Ron Guidry, and INF Willie Randolph. For 1933, they were INF Lou Gehrig, OF Babe Ruth, OF Ben Chapman, and C Bill Dickey. The winner advances to take on #1 seed 1927.

Each game recap is below:

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With that, the first series goes to 1933!

Postby **RevanFan** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:48 am

The next series up sees #32 1960 (97-57, World Series loss) taking on #97 1911 (76-76). The best players for 1960 were OF Roger Maris, OF Mickey Mantle, INF Bill "Moose" Skowron, and INF Tony Kubek. The best players for 1911, then known as the Highlanders, were SP Russ Ford, SP Ray Caldwell, OF Birdie Cree, and OF Harry Wolter.

Game 1:
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Game 4:
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We have our first upset, and it's a shocker!

Postby **RevanFan** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:39 am

Up next we have #33 2003 (101-61, World Series loss) taking on #96 1971 (82-80). The winner advances to take on #97 1911. 2003's top players were SP Mike Mussina, C Jorge Posada, INF Alfonso Soriano, and INF Jason Giambi. 1971's top players were OF Roy White, OF Bobby Mercer, C Thurman Munson, and SP Mel Stottlemyer.

Game 1:
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Game 2:
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Game 3:
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Game 4:
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Game 5:
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Another upset, and one that particularly surprised me, because before doing this journal, I did a test run and 2003 won it all.

MikeWest502 · Postby **MikeWest502** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:07 pm

RevanFan wrote:Well, I just got OOTP Baseball 22, and I had an idea I think will be brilliant. I'm going to do something similar to what I've done with my historic Cowboys teams, but... this time, it'll be simulated series with EVERY SINGLE YANKEES TEAM. That's right, every Yankees team. What's that you ask? "What about when they were the Highlanders, in the deadball era?" They'll be there too, don't you worry. Everyone from Jack Chesbro to Wally Pipp to Babe Ruth to Joe DiMaggio to Yogi Berra to Mickey Mantle to Thurman Munson to Don Mattingly to Derek Jeter to Aaron Judge. Every year from 1903 to 2020.

To make sure the lineups are accurate, I'm doing research for each team, checking box scores to figure out the correct batting order. The format will be World Series style. Seven game series, 2 home, 3 away, 2 home. The seeding will be done based primarily on playoff finish, with win percentage as a tiebreaker. The seeding is as follows:

Code: Select all
1. 1927 (.714) WSW 2. 1998 (.704) WSW 3. 1939 (.702) WSW 4. 1932 (.695) WSW 5. 1961 (.673) WSW 6. 1936 (.667) WSW 7. 1937 (.662) WSW 8. 1953 (.656) WSW 9. 1941 (.656) WSW 10. 1928 (.656) WSW 11. 1938 (.651) WSW 12. 1923 (.645) WSW 13. 2009 (.636) WSW 14. 1951 (.636) WSW 15. 1950 (.636) WSW 16. 1943 (.636) WSW 17. 1956 (.630) WSW 18. 1949 (.630) WSW 19. 1947 (.630) WSW 20. 1977 (.617) WSW 21. 1952 (.617) WSW 22. 1978 (.613) WSW 23. 1999 (.605) WSW 24. 1958 (.597) WSW 25. 1962 (.593) WSW 26. 1996 (.568) WSW 27. 2000 (.540) WSW 28. 1942 (.669) WSL 29. 1963 (.646) WSL 30. 1921 (.641) WSL 31. 1957 (.636) WSL 32. 1960 (.630) WSL 33. 2003 (.623) WSL 34. 1955 (.623) WSL 35. 1964 (.611) WSL 36. 1976 (.610) WSL 37. 1922 (.610) WSL 38. 2001 (.594) WSL 39. 1926 (.591) WSL 40. 1981 (.551) WSL 41. 2019 (.636) ALCS 42. 1980 (.636) ALCS 43. 2004 (.623) ALCS 44. 2012 (.586) ALCS 45. 2010 (.586) ALCS 46. 2017 (.562) ALCS 47. 2002 (.640) ALDS 48. 2018 (.617) ALDS 49. 2011 (.599) ALDS 50. 2006 (.599) ALDS 51. 1997 (.593) ALDS 52. 2005 (.586) ALDS 53. 2007 (.580) ALDS 54. 2020 (.550) ALDS 55. 1995 (.549) ALDS 56. 2015 (.537) ALWC 57. 1954 (.669) 58. 1994 (.619) 59. 1920 (.617) 60. 1931 (.614) 61. 1948 (.610) 62. 1934 (.610) 63. 1904 (.609) 64. 1933 (.607) 65. 1985 (.602) 66. 1935 (.597) 67. 1906 (.596) 68. 1924 (.586) 69. 1910 (.583) 70. 1919 (.576) 71. 1970 (.574) 72. 1940 (.571) 73. 1929 (.571) 74. 1946 (.565) 75. 1983 (.562) 76. 1930 (.558) 77. 1986 (.556) 78. 1979 (.556) 79. 2008 (.549) 80. 1987 (.549) 81. 1974 (.549) 82. 1993 (.543) 83. 1944 (.539) 84. 1984 (.537) 85. 1903 (.537) 86. 1945 (.533) 87. 1988 (.528) 88. 2013 (.525) 89. 2016 (.519) 90. 2014 (.519) 91. 1975 (.519) 92. 1916 (.519) 93. 1959 (.513) 94. 1968 (.512) 95. 1972 (.510) 96. 1971 (.506) 97. 1911 (.500) 98. 1969 (.497) 99. 1973 (.494) 100. 1909 (.490) 101. 1982 (.488) 102. 1918 (.488) 103. 1905 (.477) 104. 1965 (.475) 105. 1907 (.473) 106. 1992 (.469) 107. 1917 (.464) 108. 1989 (.460) 109. 1914 (.455) 110. 1915 (.454) 111. 1925 (.448) 112. 1967 (.444) 113. 1966 (.440) 114. 1991 (.438) 115. 1990 (.414) 116. 1913 (.377) 117. 1908 (.331) 118. 1912 (.329)

The only real negative in this is that the game thinks every series is the World Series because of how I'm doing it haha. Just ignore that and it'll be good. The game also doesn't have all of the correct manager names, but again... just don't worry about it.

I'll post recaps and box scores, provided by the game, of each game in each series, with one series per post. The games will all be simulated. The one thing I'm still not sure about is whether or not to use the DH rule for all teams, or just the ones from 1973-present. I think I'll have it be a team-by-team basis, with the home team determining, like the actual World Series. Game strategy will be set to the modern era for all games, and the roster limit will be 26 for all teams.

I know this part of the site isn't frequented much, but I hope there's a few baseball fans here who will find this interesting. Feel free to take a chance at guessing who will win it all.

That sounds great Revanfan, I look forward to keeping up with the journal. The Oakland A's and the Pittsburgh Pirates were always my favorite two teams in MLB! St. Louis was also a fav! I totally hated Boston, and every team out of New York

! But I will be reading and sure I'll enjoy your journal!

Postby **RevanFan** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:21 pm

MikeWest502 wrote:That sounds great Revanfan, I look forward to keeping up with the journal. The Oakland A's and the Pittsburgh Pirates were always my favorite two teams in MLB! St. Louis was also a fav! I totally hated Boston, and every team out of New York ! But I will be reading and sure I'll enjoy your journal!

Hey, it's kinda hard not to be a Yankees fan when you grow up an hour train ride from the stadium, you have a mom who used to love the Yankees in the mid to late 70s, and a dad who has loved them his whole life, and one of your earliest memories is them in the World Series. It's a very foggy memory of either the 1999 or 2000 Series, but it's there. The first World Series with them, and only one thus far, that I remember very clearly is 2009. That was a great year. I still remember watching the parade, with Jay-Z performing "Empire State of Mind" and Derek Jeter and the other players receiving "keys to the city." Good times. Wish I could have been there myself in person, but it was still cool on TV.

KO'BBF · Postby **KO'BBF** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:13 pm

in the next set I'm pulling for 66 and 67, because wasn't that coming off those famous years with Joe DiMaggio? and the Mets and shiny Shea were stealing the spotlight?... (i dont know my baseball history like i should?

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and I'll take 74, cause i like nostalgia. And 87 for personal reasons, that was when i was in 4th grade and was first learning about sports.

Postby **RevanFan** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:20 pm

KO'BBF wrote:in the next set I'm pulling for 66 and 67, because wasn't that coming off those famous years with Joe DiMaggio? and the Mets and shiny Shea were stealing the spotlight?... (i dont know my baseball history like i should? )
and I'll take 74, cause i like nostalgia. And 87 for personal reasons, that was when i was in 4th grade and was first learning about sports.

DiMaggio was mostly in the 30s and 40s (and briefly in the early 50s). 66 and 67 were in the rough times for the Yankees. They still had Howard, Mantle, Maris, Ford, and Roy White, but Howard, White, and Maris were just around average on 66, and were gone or non-existent in 67, and Ford was no longer a full time starter. Mantle was great still, but had started getting hurt more often and was older, and only played in 108 games in 66, and had to move to first base in 67.

So, for Yankees (and Highlanders) history, the big stars (both national and local) played at least a starting role in the following decades:

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Postby **RevanFan** » Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:06 am

Next we have #16 1943 (98-56, World Series win) vs. #113 1966 (70-89). The top players by WAR in 1943 were SP Spud Chandler, OF Charlie Keller, INF Joe Gordon, and SP Tiny Bonham. 1966, on the other hand, was led by UT Tom Tresh, INF Clete Boyer, OF Mickey Mantle, and SP Frtiz Peterson.

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