Historic Roster Project

[Sidelion]

This might be bad practice while my journal stagnates, but I'd like to begin on a proper historic roster mod for '08 in the vein of MuscleMike OR fix the players on his converted roster for '08. The historic teams are one of the biggest reasons '04 and '08 trump most of the new Maddens.

My questions at this point are:

1. What's the best method and tool for creating rosters? What about editing the players on a roster?

2. Is there anyway to assign a playbook to a team? If not, then is there a way to fix Madden's inability to allow custom playbooks for AI-only games?

3. Is there a certain way to fix the AI's habit of stupidity with a lot of custom playbooks? (As in staying in the I-Form the whole game.)

4. Is it even remotely feasible to attempt to recreate and rate pre-war NFL teams, considering the vastly different physical standards and two-way players?

[RevanFan]

This might be bad practice while my journal stagnates, but I'd like to begin on a proper historic roster mod for '08 in the vein of MuscleMike OR fix the players on his converted roster for '08. The historic teams are one of the biggest reasons '04 and '08 trump most of the new Maddens.

My questions at this point are:

1. What's the best method and tool for creating rosters? What about editing the players on a roster?

2. Is there anyway to assign a playbook to a team? If not, then is there a way to fix Madden's inability to allow custom playbooks for AI-only games?

3. Is there a certain way to fix the AI's habit of stupidity with a lot of custom playbooks? (As in staying in the I-Form the whole game.)

4. Is it even remotely feasible to attempt to recreate and rate pre-war NFL teams, considering the vastly different physical standards and two-way players?

1. NZA 1.3, the DB editor, and the game itself. I create players in-game, and do any post creation editing in NZA 1.3. If you ever need to import players into a roster, use the DB editor.

2. I think so, but I'm not a playbook guy, and thus am not sure.

3. Probably not.

4. It's possible, but very difficult. It requires a lot of data file editing, especially this table of the DB_Templates file.

[Austinmario13]

This might be bad practice while my journal stagnates, but I'd like to begin on a proper historic roster mod for '08 in the vein of MuscleMike OR fix the players on his converted roster for '08. The historic teams are one of the biggest reasons '04 and '08 trump most of the new Maddens.

My questions at this point are:

1. What's the best method and tool for creating rosters? What about editing the players on a roster?

2. Is there anyway to assign a playbook to a team? If not, then is there a way to fix Madden's inability to allow custom playbooks for AI-only games?

3. Is there a certain way to fix the AI's habit of stupidity with a lot of custom playbooks? (As in staying in the I-Form the whole game.)

4. Is it even remotely feasible to attempt to recreate and rate pre-war NFL teams, considering the vastly different physical standards and two-way players?

I want to be part of your project I would be very helpful in creating the players and putting the historical teams into postion. Coontact me at austinmartin1999@gmail.com

[Sidelion]

Historic Teams, 1932-1941

*1932 Chicago Bears (7-1-6)
+1932 Portsmouth Spartans (6-2-4)
1932 Green Bay Packers (10-3-1)
*1933 Chicago Bears (10-2-1)
+1933 New York Giants (11-3)
*1934 New York Giants (8-5)
+1934 Chicago Bears (13-0)
*1935 Detroit Lions (7-3-2)
+1935 New York Giants (9-3)
1935 Chicago Cardinals (6-4-2)
*1936 Green Bay Packers (10-1-1)
+1936 Boston Redskins (7-5)
*1937 Washington Redskins (8-3)
+1937 Chicago Bears (9-1-1)
*1938 New York Giants (8-2-1)
+1938 Green Bay Packers (8-3)
*1939 Green Bay Packers (9-2)
+1939 New York Giants (9-1-1)
1939 Washington Redskins (8-2-1)
*1940 Chicago Bears (8-3)
+1940 Washington Redskins (9-2)
1940 Brooklyn Dodgers (8-3)
*1941 Chicago Bears (10-1)
+1941 New York Giants (8-3)
1941 Green Bay Packers (10-1)

*=denotes league champion
+=denotes league runner-up

Any teams that should be added or removed to/from this list? If so, why?

[Austinmario13]

I can only help with teams that DON'T Have leather helmets! I was thinking 1955-2003.
1957 49ers
1957 Lions
1958 Giants
1958 Colts
1960 Eagles
1962 Texans
1962 Oilers
1963 Bears
1965 Browns
1966 Cowboys
1966 Packers
1966 Rams
1967 Packers
1967 Raiders
1968 Raiders
1968 Jets
1968 Colts
1969 Vikings
1969 Chiefs
1969 Raiders
1970 Vikings
1970 Raiders
1970 Colts
1970 Cowboys
1971 Chiefs
1971 Raiders
1971 Cowboys
1971 Vikings
1972 Redskins
1972 Dolphins
1972 Steelers
1972 Raiders
1973 Dolphins
1973 Vikings
1973 Bengals
1974 Dolphins
1974 Steelers
1974 Raiders
1974 Vikings
1975 Cowboys
1975 Steelers
1975 Vikings
1975 Rams
1975 Cardinals
1976 Raiders
1976 Patriots
1976 Vikings
1977 Colts
1977 Raiders
1977 Cowboys
1977 Broncos
1978 Dolphins
1978 Steelers
1978 Cowboys
1978 Oilers
1979 Rams
1979 Steelers
1979 Buccaneers
1980 Falcons
1980 Oilers
1980 Eagles
1980 Raiders
1981 Chargers
1981 Dolphins
1981 Bengals
1981 49ers
1981 Cowboys
1982 Dolphins
1982 Jets
1982 Redskins
1983 Redskins
1983 Raiders
1984 49ers
1984 Seahawks
1984 Rams
1984 Dolphins
1985 Bears
1985 Patriots
1985 Raiders
1985 Dolphins
1985 Jets
1986 Giants
1986 Broncos
1986 Browns
1987 Redskins
1987 Broncos
1988 49ers
1988 Bengals
1988 Oilers
1988 Bears
1989 49ers
1989 Broncos
1990 Raiders
1990 Chiefs
1990 Bills
1990 Eagles
1990 49ers
1990 Giants
1991 Falcons
1991 Bills
1991 Redskins
1991 Lions
1991 Broncos
1992 Packers
1992 49ers
1992 Oilers
1992 Cowboys
1992 Bills
1993 Cowboys
1993 Bills
1994 Chargers
1994 Cowboys
1994 49ers
1995 Steelers
1995 Cowboys
1996 Jaguars
1996 Broncos
1996 Patriots
1996 Panthers
1996 Packers
1997 Broncos
1997 Packers
1998 Falcons
1998 Vikings
1998 Broncos
1999 Rams
1999 Titans
2000 Ravens
2001 Rams
2001 Patriots
2002 Buccaneers
2002 Raiders
2003 Patriots
2003 Panthers

And some left out teams:
2000 Giants
1999 Buccaneers
1999 Jaguars
1998 Jets
1998 Cardinals
1973 Bills
1970 49ers
1965 Packers
1965 Bills
1965 Chargers
1964 Browns
1964 Colts
1964 Chargers
1964 Bills
1963 Chargers
1963 Patriots
1963 Giants
1962 Packers
1962 Giants
1961 Packers
1961 Giants
1961 Oilers
1961 Chargers
1960 Packers
1960 Oilers
1960 Chargers
1959 Giants
1959 Colts
1957 Browns
1956 Giants
1956 Bears
1955 Browns
1955 Rams

I could add uniforms easily with www.gridironuniforms.com which has uuniforms from 1933-pres.
I can help create some teams players with these websites:
www.vintagenfl.4mg.com
www.vintagenfl.freeservers.com
www.classicnfl.freeservers.com
www.classicnfl2.freeservers.com
www.90snfl.freeservers.com
www.historicnfl.webs.com
www.classicnfl.webs.com
www.historicallygreatnflandaflteams.yolasite.com

[Sidelion]

Was going to make a list of 08's historic teams, but thanks nonetheless.

Anyways, Madden egregiously omits teams like the '95 Lions and '62 Packers and has rather undeserving teams like the '70 Browns included instead. The aim of this project is to fix that.

[Austinmario13]

Was going to make a list of 08's historic teams, but thanks nonetheless.

Anyways, Madden egregiously omits teams like the '95 Lions and '62 Packers and has rather undeserving teams like the '70 Browns included instead. The aim of this project is to fix that.

You mean i help with adding those sites and thats it?

[Sidelion]

Do what? I never asked for anyone's assistance in particular.

I appreciate your effort but right now I don't need any help. Sorry.

[cardshark]

You should definetly include the 1990s cardinals team you had in the list of teams that you put aside. Also, consider making the 2008 cardinals SB team, since that really was the best team we ever had by far. I am really looking forward to this roster. If you need any help just ask.

[cardshark]

Anyway I think the cardinals at least deserve to have the 1990s team you cut from the list. Also, consider making the 2008 SB cardinals a team, since they really are the best team we ever had.