Bortles' problem (at least to me, Your Milage May Vary) is that he is inconsistency personified. He has had some great games, you can't deny that. He's had games where he appears to be a franchise QB. The thing is, those games are few and far between. I remember he had 2 great games near the end of the season, then he reverted to old Bortles. Then he became great Bortles again during the Jags vs. Steelers game, then reversed AGAIN during the Jags vs. Pats game. He isn't bad, but he isn't good either. The most effective way to use Bortles is to make him a backup QB, because he has backup QB stats. Or make him a HB and create trick plays around him, because he seems a better runner than a passer.
The only other QB I know was that bad was Tim Tebow, and everyone knows how that story ended.
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If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. Always have a plan. And a backup plan. And backups to the backup.
And be able to improvise.
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. Always have a plan. And a backup plan. And backups to the backup.
And be able to improvise.
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How funny will it be if all of the items in the fictitious tweet I posted in my franchise journal come true?? Got one right so far!
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KeepinItTeal wrote:NickyJ wrote:In any case, Cousins won't get you any further than Bortles did. To be sure, he's better than Bortles generally, but Bortles' was red hot towards the end of the season and played as well as Cousins ever could. You'll need more to get further, and I have no faith in Cousins giving more. If everything goes right, Cousins delivers. If everything goes wrong, Cousins will do absolutely nothing to dig you out of the hole.
I disagree on Cousins getting the Jags further, here's why... I have watched every NFL game of Blake Bortles career including 90% of our home games live (season ticket holder) and unless you have seen his whole body of work, I can see why you might think he's on the same level as Cousins. He's not. Bortles has publicly stated that throwing a football does not come naturally to him (he grew up playing baseball primarily as a pitcher). He struggles mightily with his mechanics and literally has a hard time throwing a spiral. Think about that. Is that what you want from a franchise QB? It's astonishing the Jags picked him as high as they did. When you can't throw a consistent tight ball it causes all sorts of problems. He can't fit a ball into tight windows, he can't throw a guy open, his throws are consistently behind his receivers and if there is any wind (Bills playoff game) it magnifies the problem and he has to run more than he throws. He can't drive a ball downfield, the harder he throws it, the more wobbly it gets. So, because of all of these limitations, the OC has to throw out half the playbook and only stick to a small number of misdirection and play action plays that gets guys wide open (because he can only hit guys that are wide open)... and, a smart opponent (Pats playoff game) adjusts and takes that away forcing the Jags to be even more one dimensional. Over the last two years, Bortles QB rating is about an 81, Cousins is about a 95, Bortles completion % about a 59, Cousins about 66%. To me, those are big differences. So, for me, Cousins is a clear upgrade and when you have a lock-down defense, the league's top run game and an o-line that only gave up 24 sacks this season, I think Cousins performs even better in Jax than he has in D.C.
jose21crisis wrote:Bortles' problem (at least to me, Your Milage May Vary) is that he is inconsistency personified. He has had some great games, you can't deny that. He's had games where he appears to be a franchise QB. The thing is, those games are few and far between. I remember he had 2 great games near the end of the season, then he reverted to old Bortles. Then he became great Bortles again during the Jags vs. Steelers game, then reversed AGAIN during the Jags vs. Pats game. He isn't bad, but he isn't good either. The most effective way to use Bortles is to make him a backup QB, because he has backup QB stats. Or make him a HB and create trick plays around him, because he seems a better runner than a passer.
The only other QB I know was that bad was Tim Tebow, and everyone knows how that story ended.
What's posted above doesn't disagree with what I said: Kirk Cousins is better than Bortles generally, but if you hit a bump in the road, Kirk will not get you over it. He will play at the level that Bortles did during the playoffs, which is certainly better than an inconsistent Bortles. But he will NOT take you further than Bortles did. The trip will be smoother, but the end result will be the same. When the going gets tough, he will panic and not get out of his own way. The only way you get further is if you make sure it's easy the whole way through and hope nobody gets injured or figures out your scheme.
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What's posted above doesn't disagree with what I said: Kirk Cousins is better than Bortles generally, but if you hit a bump in the road, Kirk will not get you over it. He will play at the level that Bortles did during the playoffs, which is certainly better than an inconsistent Bortles. But he will NOT take you further than Bortles did. The trip will be smoother, but the end result will be the same. When the going gets tough, he will panic and not get out of his own way. The only way you get further is if you make sure it's easy the whole way through and hope nobody gets injured or figures out your scheme.
That's the thing... Bortles didn't take us anywhere, the D and the run game did. We had to game plan around his limitations. If I'm the GM, I have to move on to someone else. Reading the tea leaves now, I think they will roll one more year with Bortles and draft a QB in round 1 or 2, and possibly pick up a lower end free agent QB as an insurance policy back-up. Ugh, the thought of watching another year of those wobbly duck passes is hard to stomach.
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KeepinItTeal wrote:How funny will it be if all of the items in the fictitious tweet I posted in my franchise journal come true?? Got one right so far!
Ohhh. I think you will get one more at least
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NickyJ wrote:Kirk Cousins and Alex Smith are in the same tier of QBs. Alex Smith reached his ceiling, Kirk Cousins still has a chance to show his ceiling is higher. One put up gaudy stats but folds in crunch time. The other one will probably just be mediocre period.
I'm not sad about losing Cousins. I'm not sad we got Alex Smith. I am absolutely livid that we traded one of the best nickel corners in the league, Kendall Fuller, to beat the 0-16 Browns in a trade for Smith. And to compound that, we didn't even bother telling him that he was traded.
News outlets announced that he was traded, and he went on Twitter to say that they were wrong.Spoiler:
CB was one of the few places we didn't completely suck at. We had Norman, we had Breeland, we had Fuller. Norman played injured and was predestrian, Breeland's contract is up and is expecting big money, and now Fuller is gone. Suddenly, the cupboard is bare.
1312qohelet wrote:Austinmario13 wrote:Bye Kirk Cousins.
I feel bad for Alex Smith.
He's coming off of the best statistical season of his career, but he's not exactly young. Now, he gets moved to a team in the midst of a rebuild.
I thought a good spot would have been JAX, but with all that's going on with Bortles...who knows?
We aren't rebuilding. 2014 was the last attempt at a rebuild coming off of the Shanaclan's departure. We haven't destroyed anything since then start a rebuild now.
In any case, Cousins won't get you any further than Bortles did. To be sure, he's better than Bortles generally, but Bortles' was red hot towards the end of the season and played as well as Cousins ever could. You'll need more to get further, and I have no faith in Cousins giving more. If everything goes right, Cousins delivers. If everything goes wrong, Cousins will do absolutely nothing to dig you out of the hole.
That's downright shameful. I hate that part of the business.
"Oh Daddy, some kids at school were telling me you have been traded...do we have to move??"