ultimatum77 wrote:1312qohelet wrote:
Nice use of the pun!
Thanks! Actually, I didn't notice.....
But, since you mention it, he is an "achilles heel"It would be a Giants fan's dream to have that happen like Jay Cutler with the Bear for Packers fans lol..same thing.
What? Is that a joke? The Giants aren't any better than the Bears lol. They haven't sniffed the playoffs since the 2011 season.
The Giants being happy about the Eagles re-signing Sam Bradford is THE SAME as the 49ers being happy if the Rams were to re-sign Nick Foles. Exactly the same.
That's funny, though.
Eli Manning Career rating - 83.5
Jay Cutler - 86.0
Cutler has NEVER thrown more interceptions than TD's in a season. Eli has done that TWICE. In 2013 his TD to INT ratio was 18 - 27.....Daayumm!!
Look, I like Forrest Gump, er...Eli Manning.....and I do beleive he deserves to be in the Hall for his two Super Bowl MVP's.
I know what Cutler is and I know what he is not. I'll tell you what though, the Eagles re-signing Bradford makes Jay Cutler seem pretty decent.
We'll agree to disagree...Manning is not better because of his two superbowl rings...but when the playoffs (if they get in lol) come around he always ups his game, while cutler just folds.....manning > cutler....forget the rings it's still not close....stats don't tell everything....Eli is a leader...cutler is not....that's the only difference and it is a big one....
Due to poor coaching the Giants lost some close games, and didn't close them out or they would have at least won 3 more games....they lost a few in the last sec due to poor clock management from coughlin...so yes i still think talent wise especially with obj and the offense they are better than the bears (especially after they were dumb enough to let a solid guy like forte walk and so far not resigning to a longer deal alshon jeffery only franchise tagging him) who's going to pass protect cutler now (rb?).....
BTW your killin it with these puns man....lol "achilles heel"
Yes agree to disagree...this is healthy debating, nothing personal.
But why does Eli get a pass for poor coaching? Cutler has had to deal with three of the worst OCs to ever hold the position.
Letting Forte walk was a terrible mistake. Alshon Jeffery getting the tag is because he is injury prone. He only played 9 games in '15. If he has an injury-free '16 and continues to grow, they'll offer him big money. Right now, he isn't worth it.
And I NEVER said Jay was Better than Eli, or the Bears are better than the Giants, but they are alot closer than you think. I said
The Giants being happy about the Eagles re-signing Sam Bradford is THE SAME as the 49ers being happy if the Rams were to re-sign Nick Foles. Exactly the same.
Eli has had 5 post-season appearances, 2 championships and 3 one-and-done. During those, his TD to INT is 2 to 5 with an average RAT of 54.8.
So in the playoffs, Eli folds 66.7% of the time. Not alot of "stepping his game up" there.
Jay has 2 career playoff games, 1W 1L, 2 tds 1 int with an rating of 84.8 and 2 rushing tds. He never folded, he was INJURED.
But yeah, poor coaching for Eli. Because Jay Cutler has had the best coaches ever in the NFL and still is a complete failure.