Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

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Re: Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

Postby ron9151 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:00 am

I gave up on Madden in the late 2000's and played NFL 2K5 for awhile. I started playing Madden 08 around 2012 and love it. I tried Madden 19 when it was like 10 bucks and thought it was and branched out to Madden 20 and LOVED it. The X-factor, graphics, and game mechanics are big plus but I do have to say it still isn't as good as Madden 08. If they took the features from 08 and put in 22 with the X-factor abilities, graphics, updated sound tracks etc, it would be a great game.

Negatives about the current franchise... the focus on online gaming vs the backbone of the game. I feel like EA win the battle with 2K sports with the exclusive rights but haven't put out a good product or a product that even rivals NFL 2K5. The estimated cost of the exclusivity could be what is driving the EA cash focus. It seems like EA only responded to the franchise issues when it became a PR nightmare and is being covered everywhere you turn. I very seriously doubt I will purchase anymore Madden games, as long as the community support 08 and 20, I think I am done buying a game that is basically a roster update.

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Re: Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

Postby RevanFan » Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:56 pm

ron9151 wrote:I gave up on Madden in the late 2000's and played NFL 2K5 for awhile. I started playing Madden 08 around 2012 and love it. I tried Madden 19 when it was like 10 bucks and thought it was and branched out to Madden 20 and LOVED it. The X-factor, graphics, and game mechanics are big plus but I do have to say it still isn't as good as Madden 08. If they took the features from 08 and put in 22 with the X-factor abilities, graphics, updated sound tracks etc, it would be a great game.

Negatives about the current franchise... the focus on online gaming vs the backbone of the game. I feel like EA win the battle with 2K sports with the exclusive rights but haven't put out a good product or a product that even rivals NFL 2K5. The estimated cost of the exclusivity could be what is driving the EA cash focus. It seems like EA only responded to the franchise issues when it became a PR nightmare and is being covered everywhere you turn. I very seriously doubt I will purchase anymore Madden games, as long as the community support 08 and 20, I think I am done buying a game that is basically a roster update.

Honestly, no simulation sports game is worth purchasing anymore, except MAYBE MLB The Show. There's really no competition (technically EA can still make NBA games... but there's basically no competition), and when there's no competition, innovation lags behind. Additionally, all sports sim games, except possibly MLB The Show, have a massive focus on gambling and care about nothing but ripping money from the consumers in order to pad their executives' pockets even more than they already have. Until competition is allowed from multiple sources, and microtransactions and loot boxes are banned or heavily regulated, nothing will change for sports games.

Sports management games are fun though. I've put thousands of hours into the Out of the Park Baseball series.
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Re: Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

Postby Danchat » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:07 pm

RevanFan wrote:
MikeWest502 wrote:EA Sports should drop Madden from it's gaming titles. Give it back to Tiburon, or maybe 2K Sports can revive it, maybe!

EA Tiburon IS the current developer. Have been all this time. EA Sports is not a developer, it's just EA's sports publishing division. 2K is just as horrible as EA, and it would be just as bad.

Anyway, this video about sums up modern Madden for me. Warning: Language.


I can't see your youtube video on your post. Is that something on my end or is the link invalid?
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Re: Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

Postby RevanFan » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:20 pm

Danchat wrote:
RevanFan wrote:
MikeWest502 wrote:EA Sports should drop Madden from it's gaming titles. Give it back to Tiburon, or maybe 2K Sports can revive it, maybe!

EA Tiburon IS the current developer. Have been all this time. EA Sports is not a developer, it's just EA's sports publishing division. 2K is just as horrible as EA, and it would be just as bad.

Anyway, this video about sums up modern Madden for me. Warning: Language.


I can't see your youtube video on your post. Is that something on my end or is the link invalid?

Must be your end. I see it fine. You have scripts disabled for this site? Or YouTube? Maybe something to do with third party cookies? I don't actually know, I'm just shooting off ideas haha.
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Postby mike9472 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:53 pm

Video not showing up for me either.

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Re: Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

Postby RevanFan » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:27 pm

mike9472 wrote:Video not showing up for me either.

Well, it's titled "Madden 21 - Angry Rant" from gaming YouTuber Angry Joe. It's a very long video, and it gets quite loud, but I feel his anger is understandable.
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Re: Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

Postby AaronS » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:37 am

RevanFan wrote:Honestly, no simulation sports game is worth purchasing anymore, except MAYBE MLB The Show. There's really no competition (technically EA can still make NBA games... but there's basically no competition), and when there's no competition, innovation lags behind. Additionally, all sports sim games, except possibly MLB The Show, have a massive focus on gambling and care about nothing but ripping money from the consumers in order to pad their executives' pockets even more than they already have. Until competition is allowed from multiple sources, and microtransactions and loot boxes are banned or heavily regulated, nothing will change for sports games.

Sports management games are fun though. I've put thousands of hours into the Out of the Park Baseball series.


The Show is a great experience, IMO. A very good, accurate reflection of the sport, and they have steadily improved the game over the last 5-6 years. 20 is without question the best baseball game of all-time. Even with baseballs new ret@rded rules.

I really don't have a problem with pay for content. If that's what it takes to get the experience I want, fine. But, I'm an adult with disposable income. I understand why people feel otherwise.

I've given up on Madden. I can't invest hate or hope in the product anymore. It was a nice run. Really miss it, especially this time of year, but I think I am finally finding some closure.

I really like Out of the Park BB. If they came up with a product that had better viewability (game, manage mode) I could see getting hooked on that. SO much depth though. Its almost intimidating.
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Re: Your Thoughts on Madden 19,20,and 21

Postby Chargerbolt » Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:58 pm

I like it better how in the older Madden you could just throw the ball to a receiver and they catch it or don't. Now, it's not so simple. Any opinions about this particular thing?

I also think the DBs are overpowered. They get interceptions too easily.


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